As Rev. Kelm and Prez Schroeder share the vision, perhaps now Rev. Kelm can, with Prez Schroeder's backing get the Synod (that is, all the gloomy conservatives, like those on this blog) on board to start thinking and creating cutting edge ministeries as they have at St. Mark's in DePere and get this Synod into the 21st century and get it out of its stuck in the mud, going nowhere, roots!
Sorry to interrupt, but did anyone hear about how the LCMS conference in Kewaunee, Illinois for the "Oktoberfest" at which four former WELS pastors gave presentations about the WELS went? (I heard that at least one of Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary professors was going to go to defend the WELS.)
The Parish Consultancy program is an excellent program and I think that the Synod should have all the congregations have the consultants come in and do an evaluation and the congregation can accept or reject its recommendantions. I think pastors who don't let them in are afraid of what they might find in their churches.
Could you please give a link or give a reliable source for this information about Paul Kelm accepting the call? Does your information indicate that he will function in the accepted position while at St. Mark in De Pere or will he be coming back to the Synod Headquarters in Milwaukee? Has this been announced publicly yet?
RE: "The CLC is just as much in love with Church Growth as WELS, just as tolerant of unionists like the other Tiefel and his chunky friend Koenig."
Can you give examples of the CLC being in love with Church Growth and toleration of unionists?
I am looking to find a church home and don't want to be involved in Church Growth tactics. Where can I find a church to join that is not unionistic or "church-growthy"? Thank-you.
I am looking to find a church home and don't want to be involved in Church Growth tactics. Where can I find a church to join that is not unionistic or "church-growthy"? Thank-you.
The labels mean nothing now. I suggest being discerning and finding a faithful pastor.
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As Rev. Kelm and Prez Schroeder share the vision, perhaps now Rev. Kelm can, with Prez Schroeder's backing get the Synod (that is, all the gloomy conservatives, like those on this blog) on board to start thinking and creating cutting edge ministeries as they have at St. Mark's in DePere and get this Synod into the 21st century and get it out of its stuck in the mud, going nowhere, roots!
Sorry to interrupt, but did anyone hear about how the LCMS conference in Kewaunee, Illinois for the "Oktoberfest" at which four former WELS pastors gave presentations about the WELS went? (I heard that at least one of Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary professors was going to go to defend the WELS.)
The Parish Consultancy program is an excellent program and I think that the Synod should have all the congregations have the consultants come in and do an evaluation and the congregation can accept or reject its recommendantions. I think pastors who don't let them in are afraid of what they might find in their churches.
"I think pastors who don't let them in are afraid of what they might find in their churches."
No, I think pastors who don't let them in are wise for not allowing Kelm to come in and push CG methods onto their congregations.
"No, I think pastors who don't let them in are wise for not allowing Kelm to come in and push CG methods onto their congregations."
Well, since Kelm and the Synodical praesidium share the same theology, you probably should "mark and avoid" and join the CLC.
Well, since Kelm and the Synodical praesidium share the same theology, you probably should "mark and avoid" and join the CLC.
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The CLC is just as much in love with Church Growth as WELS, just as tolerant of unionists like the other Tiefel and his chunky friend Koenig.
Could you please give a link or give a reliable source for this information about Paul Kelm accepting the call? Does your information indicate that he will function in the accepted position while at St. Mark in De Pere or will he be coming back to the Synod Headquarters in Milwaukee? Has this been announced publicly yet?
The head of Parish Assistance is my source. Rev. Kelm accepted the position yesterday.
This is a full-time position. It has been publicly announced (right here on BW).
Is the head of Parish Assistance with Church and Change as so-and-so claims?
RE: "The CLC is just as much in love with Church Growth as WELS, just as tolerant of unionists like the other Tiefel and his chunky friend Koenig."
Can you give examples of the CLC being in love with Church Growth and toleration of unionists?
I am looking to find a church home and don't want to be involved in Church Growth tactics. Where can I find a church to join that is not unionistic or "church-growthy"?
Thank-you.
"his chunky friend Koenig"
The Papists accused Luther of being fat.
I am looking to find a church home and don't want to be involved in Church Growth tactics. Where can I find a church to join that is not unionistic or "church-growthy"?
Thank-you.
The labels mean nothing now. I suggest being discerning and finding a faithful pastor.
I'm thinking of starting a new parish. Anyone know a good consultant?
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