Michelle Bachmann will very likely lose the election for her inane and dangerous comments. This is not the first time that she has stepped in the barn muck of her own words nor is it the first time that she has said that she was misquoted.
As a conservative Lutheran I am ashamed that people of the faith have not been able to see through her stupidity.
I am not in her district but I would vote for her opponent Tickleberg in a New York second.
Norman Teigen ELS layman
[Disclaimer: I am an ELS member but I do not speak for the ELS. I probably would make a good spokesman for the ELS but that time has not come yet.]
As far as I'm concerned, Mrs. Bachmann is an embarassment to our church. Not only did she deny on TV during a debate that our church teaches the papacy is the antichrist, but she makes unchristian statements like Barack Obama and liberal members of congress are anti-American. I'm a conservative Republican, and I hope she loses!! I wonder if she thinks all WELS members should vote Republican. If they don't, are they anti-American, too?
So you would vote for Ms. B's opponent - who is clearly pro-choice??? Ms. Bachmann's stand for prolife issues alone would make me vote for her - or at least NOT for her opponent. Yes, she will undoubtedly lose -- if the pundits are correct the whole country will go "liberal" - meaning, look out all Bible-believing churches. Speaking the Word can be interpreted as "hate speech" and silenced by this bunch. Scary.
I was not aware that REPRESENTATIVE Bachmann was running on a "WELS Ticket". How can she be an embarassment to the WELS? Does she make a claim in any of her political communications that her membership in a WELS congregation entitles her to votes? Besides, If I were WELS, I'd be much more embarassed that, after the election, Mark Jeske will STILL be on TV!
We need to re-evaluate the whole pro-choice/pro-life labels. I believe many of our politicians use the label simply for vote getting. Look at Pres. Bush and the congress he had when he entered office. He could have done much, much more to overturn Roe v. Wade. but he didn't (just like he didn't do a lot of other stuff and plunged the nation into the mess it's in right now). I for one will not vote Republican because I believe the Iraq war is unjust and immoral. Does that make me unAmerican? I believe it is just as sinful to send young men to their deaths in an unjust and immoral war as it is to abort babies. Don't think Christians can only vote for pro-life Republicans!
Interesting. I didn't realize that Ron Kind was WELS. I distinctly recall that when Kind ran against Jim Harsdorf (who beat incumbent Steve Gunderson in the Primaries for Republican nomination), he listed his affiliation as ELCA. Has Ron Kind always been WELS, or did he switch synods recently?
I'm just curious for how long Ron Kind has been WELS. Is he still growing into his new Confession? I have corresponded with the man many many times over the past several years, and over this time I have received no indication whatsoever that his faith has even the slightest impact on his political ideology -- which would make complete sense to me if he was schooled by the ELCA during his formative years and only recently switched to something different.
I didn't realize there were two WELS members in congress. Bachmann is getting to be well known thanks to her comments and the reaction of the blogs and media. I am disappointed to see that Ron Kind has received such a high rating from NARAL. I wonder at what point would the church step in and ask him to reconsider his support for allowing abortion. Pro-choice and WELS... aren't they mutually exclusive? If one of these two representatives is going to be the "face" of the synod on the hill, I would prefer the one that protects the rights of the unborn.
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Michelle Bachmann will very likely lose the election for her inane and dangerous comments. This is not the first time that she has stepped in the barn muck of her own words nor is it the first time that she has said that she was misquoted.
As a conservative Lutheran I am ashamed that people of the faith have not been able to see through her stupidity.
I am not in her district but I would vote for her opponent Tickleberg in a New York second.
Norman Teigen
ELS layman
[Disclaimer: I am an ELS member but I do not speak for the ELS. I probably would make a good spokesman for the ELS but that time has not come yet.]
As far as I'm concerned, Mrs. Bachmann is an embarassment to our church. Not only did she deny on TV during a debate that our church teaches the papacy is the antichrist, but she makes unchristian statements like Barack Obama and liberal members of congress are anti-American. I'm a conservative Republican, and I hope she loses!! I wonder if she thinks all WELS members should vote Republican. If they don't, are they anti-American, too?
So you would vote for Ms. B's opponent - who is clearly pro-choice??? Ms. Bachmann's stand for prolife issues alone would make me vote for her - or at least NOT for her opponent. Yes, she will undoubtedly lose -- if the pundits are correct the whole country will go "liberal" - meaning, look out all Bible-believing churches. Speaking the Word can be interpreted as "hate speech" and silenced by this bunch. Scary.
I was not aware that REPRESENTATIVE Bachmann was running on a "WELS Ticket". How can she be an embarassment to the WELS? Does she make a claim in any of her political communications that her membership in a WELS congregation entitles her to votes? Besides, If I were WELS, I'd be much more embarassed that, after the election, Mark Jeske will STILL be on TV!
ELSer
We need to re-evaluate the whole pro-choice/pro-life labels. I believe many of our politicians use the label simply for vote getting. Look at Pres. Bush and the congress he had when he entered office. He could have done much, much more to overturn Roe v. Wade. but he didn't (just like he didn't do a lot of other stuff and plunged the nation into the mess it's in right now). I for one will not vote Republican because I believe the Iraq war is unjust and immoral. Does that make me unAmerican? I believe it is just as sinful to send young men to their deaths in an unjust and immoral war as it is to abort babies. Don't think Christians can only vote for pro-life Republicans!
Interesting. I didn't realize that Ron Kind was WELS. I distinctly recall that when Kind ran against Jim Harsdorf (who beat incumbent Steve Gunderson in the Primaries for Republican nomination), he listed his affiliation as ELCA. Has Ron Kind always been WELS, or did he switch synods recently?
Ron Kind's biography lists it as:
member of Immanuel Lutheran Church, LaCrosse, Wisconsin from 1993 to present.
Mr. Kind is a WELS member in good standing and partakes in the Holy Supper.
I'm just curious for how long Ron Kind has been WELS. Is he still growing into his new Confession? I have corresponded with the man many many times over the past several years, and over this time I have received no indication whatsoever that his faith has even the slightest impact on his political ideology -- which would make complete sense to me if he was schooled by the ELCA during his formative years and only recently switched to something different.
member at Immanuel in LaCrosse since 1993...so 15 years at that particular congregation. don't know how long WELS but at least 15 years...
I didn't realize there were two WELS members in congress. Bachmann is getting to be well known thanks to her comments and the reaction of the blogs and media. I am disappointed to see that Ron Kind has received such a high rating from NARAL. I wonder at what point would the church step in and ask him to reconsider his support for allowing abortion. Pro-choice and WELS... aren't they mutually exclusive? If one of these two representatives is going to be the "face" of the synod on the hill, I would prefer the one that protects the rights of the unborn.
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